[20:49:57] Bootslave: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[20:55:35] celtic_slave_2: <Enters the Dungeon>
[20:56:53] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[20:56:57] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[20:57:05] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[20:57:09] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[20:57:16] celtic_slave_2: <Has left the Dungeon>
[20:57:36] Imperium_Omnia: <Enters the Dungeon>
[20:57:58] LayaThomas: <Enters the Dungeon>
[20:58:37] LayaThomas: Good evening!
[21:01:20] Imperium_Omnia: So sorry. I logged on and then had to step away for a moment. How are you doing tonight?
[21:02:01] celtic_slave_2: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:02:11] LayaThomas: I'm grateful for the opportunity to be here, thanks.
[21:03:01] celtic_slave_2: Good evening
[21:03:25] LayaThomas: Hello celtic slave
[21:03:52] LayaThomas: have either of you joined the chat before?
[21:04:02] CC: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:04:22] celtic_slave_2: I have a few times before, always enjoyable
[21:04:24] CC: love log in problems ....
[21:04:26] CC: evening
[21:04:26] LayaThomas: There is our illustrious leader!
[21:04:41] Imperium_Omnia: No, I just learned of this resource a few days ago.
[21:04:55] CC: A couple things you may wish to be aware of ...
[21:04:55] LayaThomas: I have had problems with logs lately too-tree branches in storms LOL
[21:04:59] celtic_slave_2: Good evening, CC
[21:05:26] CC: if you do not refresh or comment about every 5 min .. .the room thinks you are "not here" and gives you a very unceremonious boot
[21:05:27] telleto: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:05:45] CC: not to be confused with a nice pair of leather one
[21:05:55] LayaThomas: Hi there tellto!
[21:06:03] telleto: hello all
[21:06:05] celtic_slave_2: LOL I learned that the last time LOL
[21:06:19] celtic_slave_2: Hello tellto
[21:06:19] CC: I will appologize in advance to any of you that have attempted correspondence ..there are any number of email issues we have been dealing with
[21:07:02] CC: Laya ...as we give people another 4 -5 min ... how about telling us about you ...
[21:07:06] LayaThomas: So the button "refresh top" should be selected on occassion?
[21:08:08] LayaThomas: <just sitting here>
[21:08:12] Imperium_Omnia: Wish I had that button in my daily life! ;-)
[21:08:21] LayaThomas: it just flashed connection failed
[21:08:25] CC: talk or refresh will work as well as just "enter"
[21:09:34] telleto: my master wishes me to ask if anyone knows of a cage for sale that will house a 5'4", 160 lb. slave
[21:09:35] LayaThomas: My name is Laya and Thomas is a name given from my leather family.
[21:10:02] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[21:10:12] LayaThomas: Princess is from my teen years when I began working with international populations as a strong female leader
[21:10:18] bootslave: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:10:48] celtic_slave_2: I don't tellto, sorry
[21:11:03] LayaThomas: I coordinate the member business matters for the Interrogations Atlanta organization....
[21:11:29] LayaThomas: and moderate the general subscribers list Interrogations_Atlanta_BDSM@yahoogroups.com
[21:12:14] LayaThomas: I have been out in my local scene for almost five years now
[21:12:55] telleto: hi bootslave
[21:13:24] bootslave: hi telleto
[21:13:29] LayaThomas: Some specialty topics of mine are fantasy role play, pet play, protocol versus etiquette, family structure and cohesion
[21:13:41] telleto: thanks cletic_slave_2, figured I'd give it a try even tho this is interrogation
[21:14:10] bootslave: new here - just checkin it out
[21:14:10] LayaThomas: I authored "The Dungeon Monitor Training Manual" availed to communities with permission
[21:14:35] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[21:14:36] LayaThomas: I appeared in the pet play documentary airing in UK 1999 called "Yanky Panky"
[21:15:14] LayaThomas: I own a list called "Jewish Power Exchange" and was the final Ms Leather Pride Contest at Sountheast Leatherfest 2002
[21:15:21] bootslave: im in uk - was that for BBC or Channel 4
[21:16:36] LayaThomas: I think BBC
[21:17:06] bootslave: cool - shame I missed it
[21:17:19] LayaThomas: It was an educational tv time
[21:17:36] bootslave: well absolutely
[21:17:53] LayaThomas: I meant contestant not contest in earlier remark
[21:18:10] CC: maybe it will be re-run?
[21:18:42] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[21:18:51] bootslave: can you post The Dungeon Monitor Training Manual on one of Mistress Michelle Peters Sites?
[21:18:57] LayaThomas: I don't know about re-run as it was in 1999. The info is still good.
[21:19:28] bootslave: Probably Knowing the Beeb - at the graveyard slot
[21:19:52] CC: bootslave .. I believe we will be doing that here *S*
[21:20:15] CC: but then ... back to the topic of the night .. Interrogations
[21:20:19] bootslave: cool
[21:20:30] LayaThomas: I would want to peruse her sites first and would be glad to consider. Email info on her sites and her to me.
[21:21:03] LayaThomas: What have those of you present this evening heard about interrogations?
[21:21:08] bootslave: ok - she might drop in tonite
[21:21:29] celtic_slave_2: Nothing here.
[21:21:44] Imperium_Omnia: I think of an interrogation as an opportunity to probe a person's emotions and motivations.
[21:22:28] LayaThomas: anyone else?
[21:23:19] LayaThomas: Has anyone ever participated in an interrogation?
[21:23:34] CC: I've been holding tons of questions
[21:24:14] LayaThomas: Great CC!
[21:24:17] danni_slave: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:24:22] CC: Other than interrogating my kids ... not really
[21:24:28] LayaThomas: What we are going to discuss tonight is not technique
[21:24:38] danni_slave: good evening may this slave please enter?
[21:24:47] LayaThomas: This is not like how do you properly swing a flogger
[21:24:50] CC: evening danni *S*
[21:25:09] danni_slave: good evening CC Ma'am
[21:25:11] LayaThomas: Enter quiety danni
[21:25:30] LayaThomas: sorry, quietly please
[21:25:59] LayaThomas: The point of any power exchange, including interrogations, is to be able to dominate and submit through this exchange
[21:26:17] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[21:26:46] LayaThomas: Even with a flogger, although you can look great swinging, are you able to dominate the person?
[21:27:11] CC: *I have a question as time permists ...
[21:27:36] LayaThomas: We are going to speak about two major topics tonight which I refer to as "Mind" and "Matter"
[21:28:01] LayaThomas: CCquestion?
[21:28:32] danni_slave: <Has left the Dungeon>
[21:28:44] telleto: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[21:29:02] CC: Laya ~ referring tot he Mind and Matter ... does it matter as to the point of view ... dominant or submissive?
[21:29:53] LayaThomas: Ah, you are giving a segway for me without being prompted. We will talk about the dynamics
[21:30:53] LayaThomas: I hope to give you a whole new perspective on Top/bottom
[21:31:07] CC: <just sitting here>
[21:31:07] CC: *grins* why thank you very much ...
[21:31:18] Imperium_Omnia: <just sitting here>
[21:31:20] CC: <just sitting here>
[21:31:20] CC: <just sitting here>
[21:31:20] CC: <just sitting here>
[21:31:20] LayaThomas: <just sitting here>
[21:31:54] LayaThomas: I keep getting timed out connection messages
[21:32:38] celtic_slave_2: <Has left the Dungeon>
[21:33:02] celtic_slave_2: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:33:10] CC2: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:33:24] CC2: well darn I got a nasty boot
[21:33:43] PrincessLaya: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:34:04] telleto: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:34:04] bootslave: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:34:06] celtic_slave_2: so did i CC..lol
[21:34:10] CC2: there was a bad boot there Laya
[21:34:14] PrincessLaya: Very wierd, I keep getting booted out and now I am in her listed twice hmmmm
[21:34:32] CC2: keep track of boots by .. CC / CC2 ... CC3
[21:34:51] CC2: I think the internet burped
[21:35:03] PrincessLaya: Lets talk about the Mind
[21:35:19] CC2: heads back to "whole new perspective on Top/bottom"
[21:36:04] PrincessLaya: First is what I refer to as "High/Anxiety Ratio"
[21:37:02] PrincessLaya: What I mean is that no matter if you are Top or bottom there is a direct ratio of when was is naturally high on the happenings when the other is anxious
[21:37:59] PrincessLaya: The Top will get the chuckles when the bottom is getting nerve tapped and visa versa
[21:39:10] PrincessLaya: That is the nutshell of the interrogation power exchange- not to break the bottom or break the Top
[21:39:31] CC2: *grins thinking about the possibilities*
[21:40:08] Imperium_Omnia: <just sitting here>
[21:40:10] PrincessLaya: 2nd thing to remember is Frame of Reference
[21:40:29] CC2: *ponders* Do you see the possibility of the bottom getting the Top nervous?
[21:40:34] CC2: ooooooops ... sorry
[21:40:40] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[21:41:06] PrincessLaya: One may be designated as Top or bottom but it can be complete role reversal in appearance
[21:41:52] CC2: could you perhaps give an example?
[21:42:07] PrincessLaya: Example- the child is actually the Top asking the parent bottom where their favorite toy was hidden
[21:43:08] CC2: *tries not to laugh*
[21:43:15] CC2: oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh
[21:43:16] PrincessLaya: Imagine me in a little girl outfit and crying "Mommy, Mommy where is bear?" Whahhhhhh!!!
[21:43:36] CC2: the many faces of interrogation!
[21:44:00] PrincessLaya: The little girl is really the Top
[21:44:02] CC2: real or adult children can play out that scene very well
[21:45:11] bootslave: growing old is compulsory but growing up is optional
[21:45:25] PrincessLaya: Now imagine that a handcuffed prisoner begins telling the guard they will tell the superior all of the unethical behaviors being done in the jail. That's a bottom trying to Top the Top
[21:45:49] CC2: *listens noting I do not intend to rush into the alternative to growing old*
[21:46:23] CC: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[21:46:25] PrincessLaya: You can Top from Top, bottom from bottom, bottom from Top and Top from bottom depending
[21:46:37] CC2: *lets that scenario play for a bit*
[21:46:56] LayaThomas: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[21:47:12] PrincessLaya: 3rd thing to think of are character involved specifically to the planned interrogation
[21:48:19] PrincessLaya: They are numerous-Cop/Robber, Boss/Secretary, Angel/Priest, Principle/Teacher/student, Owner/Pet
[21:48:29] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[21:48:45] PrincessLaya: you also can do it without characters- just a goal
[21:49:08] telleto: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[21:49:19] PrincessLaya: Example- guessing a color, finding an object
[21:49:29] telleto: <Has left the Dungeon>
[21:49:47] CC2: I would think that, to some extent, that because of the potential volitility of "interrogations" they would most often be done with people that know each other ... and "choreographed" or at least roughed out as beginning/middle/end expectations?
[21:50:07] telleto: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:50:27] CC2: w/b
[21:50:28] Imperium_Omnia: <just sitting here>
[21:50:29] PrincessLaya: CC-reading my mind again!
[21:50:48] celtic_slave_2: *has a question if permitted
[21:51:00] PrincessLaya: Any questions at this point?
[21:51:02] bootslave: surely depending on the scenario , intensity and length of scene there must be dangers of elements of stockholm syndrome taking effect?
[21:51:08] CC2: now that is a scary thought isnt it? *S*
[21:52:10] telleto: actually, a small, or temporary amount of Stockholm syndrome, i find exciting
[21:52:34] CC2: bootslave ~ While I am certainly no "expert" on interrogation ... I would think that would be mitigated due to the known factor of this being a "scene" as well as "w/in limits"
[21:53:16] bootslave: I would have thought as mentioned earlier - that some sort of choeography gives a map that would help counter potential effects
[21:53:52] PrincessLaya: Are you referring to a type of freaking out?
[21:54:08] bootslave: i was just thinking about different possible scenarios related to other areas of play
[21:54:22] PrincessLaya: Remember, what we are doing is fantasy role play and we must negotiate triggers
[21:54:48] lyn: <Enters the Dungeon>
[21:55:03] PrincessLaya: We are also doing this to elicit responses purposefully for the unknown and the rollercoaster of emotions is what is so exciting
[21:55:36] telleto: stockholm syndrome, referring to hostages who become very dependant on their captors or hosts and actually become sympathetic, if not actually enamoure do them. An actual incident that happened in Stockholms
[21:56:26] PrincessLaya: Not familiar with Stockholm
[21:56:31] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[21:56:52] Imperium_Omnia: Fantasy can have such real effects. Stockholm -- hostages falling in love with their captors -- couldn't that be one goal in an interrogation? At least in the context of a pre-existing relationship.
[21:56:56] telleto: my master and i do scenes and i feel so close, even closer than usual when the syndrome kicks in
[21:57:21] CC2: even with the "known" aspects of role play... the "logic" of trying to be cooperative with captors/interrogators would seem to be "logical"
[21:57:41] PrincessLaya: Anything goes in interrogations
[21:58:24] CC2: The captives begin to identify with their captors. At least at first this is a defensive mechanism, based on the (often unconscious) idea that the captor will not hurt the captive if he is cooperative and even positively supportive. The captive seeks to win the favor of the captor in an almost childlike way.
[21:58:35] PrincessLaya: Could have a prisoner fall in love mid interrogations thinking it would give special treatment-see how the Top responds
[21:58:38] CC2: The captive often realizes that action taken by his would-be rescuers is very likely to hurt him instead of obtaining his release. Attempts at rescue may turn a presently tolerable situation into a lethal one. If the bullets of the authorities don't get him, quite possibly those of the provoked captor will.
[21:58:56] telleto: exactly, in trying to get them to be sympathetic with your plight, you end up being sympathetic to them
[21:58:57] CC2: Long term captivity builds even stronger attachment to the captor as he becomes known as a human being with his own problems and aspirations. Particularly in political or ideological situations, longer captivity also allows the captive to become familiar with the captor's point of view and the history of his grievances against authority. He may come to believe that the captor's position is just.
[21:59:05] PrincessLaya: bottom could suddenly give out all secret information or Top could fall in love and tell how to escape
[21:59:12] CC2: The captive seeks to distance himself emotionally from the situation by denial that it is actually taking place. He fancies that "it is all a dream", or looses himself in excessive periods of sleep, or in delusions of being magically rescued. He may try to forget the situation by engaging in useless but time consuming "busy work". Depending on his degree of identification with the captor he may deny that the captor is at fault, holding that the would-be rescuers and their insistence on punishing the captor are really to blame for his situation.
[21:59:28] CC2: quickie on the Stockholm syndrome
[22:00:35] CC2: Patricia Hurst was said to have been involved in that w/her bank robbery and I think it was the Symbianese Liberation Army
[22:00:40] PrincessLaya: Lets talk now about "Matter"
[22:01:05] lyn: i would think that if one is held captive... eventually the basic needs of personal safety and dependency would kick in. once one is dependent upon another, then emotions and feelings can easily become active. hence one could 'fall' for one's captor.
[22:01:17] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[22:01:59] PrincessLaya: It must be understood that thorough negotiations of one's health and mental stability be discussed
[22:02:07] CC2: actual term was coined after a 5+day, 4 hostage situation in of course stockholm bank vault back in 1973 or 74 ...
[22:02:23] PrincessLaya: Extreme triggers of any kind need to be known
[22:02:55] lyn: is it possible triggers might not be known?
[22:03:18] PrincessLaya: Triggers that are unknown could certainly crop up
[22:03:23] CC2: that always makes me a bit leary ... how often to things get triggered that one was unaware of? Have you ever had that happen to you Laya?
[22:03:39] PrincessLaya: Remember that you can cause crowd triggers too
[22:03:48] CC2: *chuckles at the ditto, ditto, ditto thoughts*
[22:03:52] PrincessLaya: The audience could be impacted greatly
[22:04:07] lyn: how would unknown triggers be handled in a scene
[22:04:25] PrincessLaya: I did a group interrogation beforehand I had privately negotiated with one young man
[22:04:52] lyn: <listens/reads>
[22:04:56] PrincessLaya: Although I definitely explained that we were potentially extreme and combative....
[22:05:44] telleto: *reading*
[22:05:57] PrincessLaya: the interrogation facilitator and the onlookers were shocked when this football layer sized guy took his prisoner chain and wrapped it around my neck threatening to kill me in the scene
[22:06:12] PrincessLaya: <just sitting here>
[22:06:43] PrincessLaya: they didn't know if he had been triggered and was going bollistic or not
[22:06:50] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[22:07:07] CC2: wellllllllll.... that could have been a stunning conclusion
[22:07:14] PrincessLaya: I was also nervous but I had negotiated and that whole unknown is part of the adventure
[22:07:17] telleto: <Has left the Dungeon>
[22:07:35] telleto: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:07:43] PrincessLaya: Now granted, something that looks like choking someone would cause panic and should be mentioned
[22:07:47] CC2: what kinds of safeguards do you have with that kind of potential brute force
[22:08:53] PrincessLaya: Always have those designated to watch and monitor the scene and have all Tops know all bottoms important issues
[22:09:09] bootslave: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[22:09:31] PrincessLaya: this wasn't someone actually trying to hurt me, his character just came out like that
[22:09:31] Imperium_Omnia: What if the bottom doesn't know her own issues? Especially thinking of my girlfriend's abuse issues.
[22:09:59] PrincessLaya: I'll give another example you wouldn't think of so quickly
[22:10:58] PrincessLaya: I came dressed as an elderly teacher to interrogate students at a spanking group which was a hoot. You wouldn't believe the potential grandmother/mother/aunt triggers and guilt trip thoughts
[22:11:14] telleto: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:11:23] PrincessLaya: If someone has been abused they should say so and how to prevent the triggers
[22:11:55] CC2: for the spankees or the spankers?
[22:11:58] PrincessLaya: If someone knows what their own reactions are to avoid, tell the Top so they can recognize it and alter the scene
[22:12:27] PrincessLaya: If the Top cannot turn it around, or if the bottom doesn't move it in another direction it could flop
[22:12:56] PrincessLaya: the point is to maneuver around so the scene doesn't stop
[22:13:40] PrincessLaya: Let's go to the foreground issues now
[22:14:16] PrincessLaya: The setting and tools needed would be determined
[22:14:36] PrincessLaya: The Top would let the bottom know just enough to come prepared
[22:14:37] tianikexc: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:14:50] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[22:15:02] CC2: *listens into insights of interrogation*
[22:15:24] PrincessLaya: Everyone should know the nature of the scene to bring supplies and dress appropriately and to set up the room
[22:15:29] tianikexc: <Has left the Dungeon>
[22:15:47] PrincessLaya: You don't want to give away too much or there isn't any mystery
[22:15:55] Bootslave: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:16:52] PrincessLaya: 2nd Everyone needs to know the beginning and the end but the middle is the fun part to anticipate
[22:17:09] tel: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:17:12] PrincessLaya: Example-
[22:17:18] CC2: kind of like a murder mystery game? ... everyone knows who is there and "bits" but not the whole thing .. and then the individual interactions make it awesome or boringggggggggg
[22:17:36] PrincessLaya: If the prisoner tells information about his commander he will be let go free
[22:17:38] PrincessLaya: <just sitting here>
[22:18:07] lyn: interrogation mystery game....
[22:18:28] Imperium_Omnia: <just sitting here>
[22:18:28] PrincessLaya: So the beginning is the setup of someone coming into imprisonment and the end is if they get set free or not
[22:18:31] Bootslave: or will he?
[22:18:59] lyn: and what happens if it's 'not'
[22:19:05] tel: hi, telleto here, i keep getting knocked off, and it says telleto is signed on to choose another name, so i had to switch to tel
[22:19:10] PrincessLaya: Example again- if the student tells the teacher who was cheating in a test they will get an A, will they tell or not in the end?
[22:19:32] PrincessLaya: Ah- the what happens if is the mysterious part
[22:20:09] PrincessLaya: The middle is the inquiry of questions and responses, actions and reactions
[22:20:33] celtic_slave_2: <just sitting here>
[22:21:11] PrincessLaya: There are specific questions and specific consequences
[22:21:15] tel: [thanks CC2]
[22:21:42] PrincessLaya: the middle inquiry is where the High/Anxiety Ratio occurs
[22:21:57] celtic_slave_2: <Has left the Dungeon>
[22:22:09] PrincessLaya: the potential table turning of characters involved matching wits and stamina
[22:22:39] PrincessLaya: Although physical consequences and interaction may occur, it is crucial what results in the psyche from the efforts
[22:22:42] CC2: do you set a time format when doing an interrogation scene?
[22:23:56] PrincessLaya: time is relevant- it could be a set number of questions in the inquiry or it could be minutes, or until a particular person guesses an answer, etc.
[22:24:15] PrincessLaya: getting the connection failed message here again
[22:24:17] tel: <Has left the Dungeon>
[22:24:35] telletoexcitecom: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:24:40] telletoexcitecom: <Has left the Dungeon>
[22:24:55] CC2: you mentioned physical consequences ... I would think that having one trained in first aide would be a mininum requirement and that that person not be invovled in the scene
[22:25:21] telleto2: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:25:28] CC2: busy night on the net perhaps ... I havent a clue
[22:25:41] PrincessLaya: I mean physical consequences such as S/m in a scene
[22:26:16] telleto: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[22:26:16] PrincessLaya: Tell me or I am so sorry but I must zap you
[22:26:27] CC2: ahh I see
[22:27:00] PrincessLaya: or someone is tied to a table and you threaten to continue tickling their feet until they give you the answer
[22:27:45] PrincessLaya: some are into face slapping or a child could be getting a spanking
[22:27:45] CC2: thinks the minute that I'd be up someone would be in BIG trouble
[22:28:15] Imperium_Omnia: <just sitting here>
[22:28:46] ashygirl: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:29:50] ashygirl: i'm sorry i'm late...the topic? can you say?>
[22:29:55] PrincessLaya: 3rd is moving forward through the inquiry
[22:30:25] CC2: I see you have run the whole spectrum from looking for an object/spanking to full blown interrogations ..
[22:30:39] CC2: that is really giving a wide range of possibilities isnt it?
[22:30:41] PrincessLaya: this is something a lot of people need to understand to be able to have it work
[22:30:54] telleto: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:31:02] PrincessLaya: Yes it can be playful or very serious
[22:31:32] CC2: I suspect that very few would have automatically termed interrogations as "playful"
[22:31:49] PrincessLaya: A playful example might be that one is out on a date and finds out that their date had a nickname they didn't like in high school
[22:32:21] PrincessLaya: So the setting is out on the date whereever that was and the goal is to get the person to tell the nickname
[22:32:35] Bootslave: yeh but serious can involve torture scenes etc - hence the stockholm concern
[22:33:39] PrincessLaya: <just sitting here>
[22:33:47] lyn: <reading>
[22:33:52] LayaThomas: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:34:04] CC2: if the screen " blanks" on you ... try clicking "refresh top" and that will sometimes return it
[22:34:33] lyn: thank you CC2
[22:34:35] telleto3: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:35:10] LayaThomas: Boot you are expressing stockholm again- reminder that this is fantasy role play and certainly it must be taken seriously but it is clear that it is not a nonconsensual interrogation
[22:35:59] LayaThomas: The Top would have to note if someone was altering personality in role or seriously
[22:36:36] lyn: how would one know the difference Laya
[22:36:42] LayaThomas: Again, best to know someone over some negotiation time and potential reactions beforehand
[22:37:24] telleto3: that's it, can't take what's happening anymore, the computer has won, bye all
[22:37:31] telleto3: <Has left the Dungeon>
[22:37:35] LayaThomas: There is also such a thing as check in signals which don't throw off the scene
[22:38:11] Imperium_Omnia: <just sitting here>
[22:38:28] LayaThomas: If you are not sure whether someone is psychologically traumatised or not, use a signal
[22:38:57] LayaThomas: I like to use a hand squeeze, once and twice
[22:39:25] LayaThomas: Giving the answer to a Top they are looking for also could be a signal to end the scene
[22:39:36] CC2: there is a difference .... stockholm syndrome was basically captors treatening ones life but showing kindness .. even though the captives believed that their captors would act on it ... were drawn to them ... Funny thing is ... with a more updated look at the syndrome ... major companies are being accused of using the same type tactics with their clients/customers
[22:40:12] LayaThomas: If it seems they have gone beyond and are in their heads way too far, the Top could creatively end the scene
[22:40:26] telleto2: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[22:41:00] LayaThomas: For example the prisoner is seeming completely unnerved, so I would send them back to their cell and tell them we will start again at 3am
[22:42:05] CC2: that would be a good save!
[22:42:20] LayaThomas: Remember to have a third trusted party in case a scene goes awry like that so the guard might stay with the prisoner near the cell and lend comfort, hey the chief ain't so bad don't worry
[22:42:23] CC2: how long is the longest interrogation you have done?
[22:42:48] LayaThomas: the third party is someone that the bottom trusts
[22:43:55] lyn: <reading>
[22:44:12] LayaThomas: the two longest I can think of were group scenes so there were multiple dynamics of characters, both about 90 minutes
[22:44:53] ashygirl: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[22:45:59] telleto: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[22:46:12] CC2: was thinking DAYSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[22:46:56] LayaThomas: It can be mentally and physically exhausting for the parties involved
[22:47:17] LayaThomas: The planning can take days because I love that part
[22:47:42] Bootslave: <Has left the Dungeon (autologout).>
[22:48:02] LayaThomas: Think about it- you get interrogated every day
[22:48:03] Imperium_Omnia: <just sitting here>
[22:48:21] bootslave: <Enters the Dungeon>
[22:48:25] LayaThomas: The boss asks "where is that report I asked for"?
[22:49:07] CC2: interrogation ... intimidation .... *thinking of other terms that convey the essence*
[22:49:29] LayaThomas: What happened while I was gone on vacation...and lists things and asks about each situation
[22:50:10] LayaThomas: But play with this concept as fun and you can start chuckling when you see your boss next time
[22:51:02] LayaThomas: Instead of getting intimidated which means the High is the bosses and the anxiety is yours, think of clever come backs to turn the tables
[22:51:30] LayaThomas: that's the adventure and kind of tension of interrogations
[22:51:44] CC2: "you mean the report that is in your email"???
[22:51:51] CC2: *grins* been there ... done that
[22:51:56] LayaThomas: Say to your boss, well John won the lottery and bought the company so we didn't have to write those reports after all
[22:52:26] CC2: like yours better ... IF I had won the lottery *lol*
[22:52:36] LayaThomas: I am not telling you to actually say that to your real boss, I am saying this is possible for the fantasy role play
[22:53:30] LayaThomas: if the bottom composes oneself enough to turn the table on the Top, or the bottom may not want to because the bottom wants to experience the tension
[22:53:48] CC2: guess one would have to guage what kind of boss one really had if one were to use that scenario ... does make nice day dream though ... I had thought of telling mine to sit on a cactus and spin ... would have given him a destinctly better personality
[22:53:52] LayaThomas: Depends on what floats the boat
[22:54:55] LayaThomas: I'd like to think of some sassy bratty comments for the Sir of my leather family, but saying them would be consequential indeed
[22:55:48] LayaThomas: I am a Domme but still have a higher level Sir that I go to with my questions and to look out for me. I get asked lots of questions.
[22:55:51] CC2: Laya ~ could you briefly relay an outline of your favorite interrogation scene .. either done by you or one that you watched? (and how many would you say was the maximum number of partcipants in any given scene?)
[22:57:04] LayaThomas: school scene with about 15 participants
[22:57:29] LayaThomas: I was a teacher, and two Tops were the principle and head master
[22:57:32] CC2: boy now that puts a lot of different energies into the melting pot there!
[22:57:47] LayaThomas: the rest were students.
[22:58:02] lyn: <slips out quietly>... thank you everyone
[22:58:03] LayaThomas: Those not wishing to participate sat in the back of the room
[22:58:05] lyn: <Has left the Dungeon>
[22:58:13] Imperium_Omnia: <just sitting here>
[22:58:34] LayaThomas: So me being mischievous, I went to the back of the room toward the end of the scene and pretended they were all parents
[22:59:17] LayaThomas: the students academic involvement was in question but we would also pull stunts like find a partially smoked cigarette in the bathroom and asked who was responsible
[22:59:47] LayaThomas: Some I would discipline by spanking or writing on the blackboard or study hall
[23:00:01] LayaThomas: the parents didn't expect to be parents and were surprized
[23:00:25] LayaThomas: I was asking how they like the school and wondered why they didn't put their other children in the classes
[23:00:41] bootslave: thanx everyone
[23:00:43] bootslave: <Has left the Dungeon>
[23:01:03] LayaThomas: I would ask why they didn't visit the students and participate more often in parent conferences
[23:01:21] CC2: Reminders ... If you are a first timer be sure to stop by the Discussion Board (you can register w/a quick email requesting your preferred handle to editor@thebrc.net) .... it was down for awhile for tech difficulties ... but it is back. There are also over 300 articles on the site for basic reading.
[23:01:43] LayaThomas: The connection is failing again and it is about time to wrap up.
[23:01:59] CC2: Next week will be open forum more or less a grab bag ...
[23:02:07] CC2: and it is 11 pm ...
[23:02:25] Imperium_Omnia: Thank you so much for the information! I enjoyed your conversation. Good night.
[23:02:27] LayaThomas: Thank you for the opportunity to discuss interrogations
[23:02:32] CC2: You covered a lot there tonight Laya ... some great food for thought as well as possibilities
[23:02:48] LayaThomas: You are welcome imperium!
[23:03:12] Imperium_Omnia: <Has left the Dungeon>
[23:03:17] LayaThomas: CC glad you got some things out of the discussion
[23:04:11] CC2: Laya ... did I give you my address the other day so you could send me that hard copy?
[23:04:16] LayaThomas: Good night
[23:04:28] LayaThomas: yes on address
[23:04:49] LayaThomas: did I unnerve Danni?
[23:05:22] LayaThomas: I wrote please enter quietly
[23:05:50] CC2: and of course *lol* brand new here
[23:06:06] LayaThomas: appropriate delivery to a slave was my intent
[23:06:27] LayaThomas: meant no offense
[23:06:41] CC2: when I get the manual I'll get it all formatted into html and get your approval on it
[23:06:47] CC2: none was taken
[23:07:09] LayaThomas: I am honored
[23:07:47] LayaThomas: I will retire from chat now. Thanks again for the opportunity CC.
